Like, you don't have to prove anything to anyone. You don't have to fulfill anyone's checklist or anything.

You are the one that is believing in yourself, and that absolutely knows that this is your path, and you define your own success, whatever success means to you.

We are moms, we are bosses, and we're living abroad. And in this brand new season of this exciting podcast, we are boosting the woman to woman connection through deep, intimate conversations to pause, reflect, and go beyond the skiing deep.

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Hi, and welcome to a new episode of the Mom Bosses Abroad podcast.

I am Iva Perez, and I am here today with my podcast co-host and business bestie, Desiree Gonzalez. So the idea of today is that some women change confidence, and others build it quietly from the inside out.

The truth is, your self-worth isn't something you can earn from achievements and income or validation. It's actually the ground beneath everything that you create.

So in today's episode, we're exploring what it really means to feel worthy, especially as women who lead, build and raise the next generation. Because without a deep sense of inner worth, even success can feel shaky.

This conversation is for you if you've ever found yourself questioning your value in moments of change, doubt or comparison, as we're driving into the kind of self-worth that doesn't waver, the kind that makes your life and business truly unshakable.

And so today we have the great joy to be here with our podcast guest, Jill Kamper, to really dive into this incredible topic because she has embodied so much of what we're going to be unpacking today. So Jill, welcome to our podcast.

It's so good to have you here.

Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Great to be here.

Jill is a German born entrepreneur that is currently living, though, in Australia in the beautiful Sunshine Coast.

And she's a mom of two gorgeous girls. And so after overcoming burnout and leaving the 9-to-5 grind, she built a freedom-based lifestyle through affiliate marketing, holistic art therapy, and multiple passion-driven income streams.

She shares her journey of homeschooling, spirituality, and rewriting her story to inspire other freedom seekers to create lives aligned with their values.

Jill's story is one of courage, growth, and rewriting the rules, proving that with belief in aligned action, a new life is always possible.

She's a true believer that we shape the world around us, and she refuses to accept the normal, and instead creates her own path, so her daughters never have to repeat that cycle.

That is so beautiful, and we're so honored to have this conversation with you today, Jil.

Thank you. Thanks again for having me. Great pleasure to be here and share my story.

We're so excited because also when we've met, we have to tell people even how we all met.

So we met in Bali. You were there on a retreat, and Iva lives in Bali, but I was also visiting her, and we were then invited to be guest facilitators at this retreat for a day.

And that's where we drove out to this beautiful, gorgeous venue, and we met incredible women. And immediately, I think when we met, you came up to me and you're like, you're German too? And I was like, yes, I am.

And I was like, oh, instant connection there. But even as the three of us were talking, we're like, oh, so it's just so nice.

It's like again, that evidence of how beautiful this business is, that it opens up the doors to meet such incredible people along the way, that are going to be not only connected with you in business, but really life because we share so many things.

Like we're mothers, we're so, like we want to break away from the norm. We're all living abroad in other countries, trying to make it all happen. And so it's really great.

And so a lot of art, like the way we started speaking is we shared each other's stories with each other.

And I think what really came out and which is why we wanted just to expand on this in the podcast is the whole topic of self-worth, what it truly means and where that all begins.

5:33

Defining Self-Worth

So like Jil, for you, how do you actually define like self-worth? What, why is that such a big topic for you and your journey? All right.

So years ago, I realized the saying or the word self-love, like self-love in itself, it's just a word, self-love, self-worth.

But what does it actually mean? We don't really often think about it or I haven't.

And then after experiencing burnout and depression and anxiety, I realized everything, the way you treat yourself and others and your life comes from that word self-love or self-worth.

And that's when it hit me how self-love is really the beginning of everything. Is the way you speak to your partner or the way you speak to yourself, to your children, how you, whatever you think you're worth in this life.

And it just hit me because when you love yourself enough, then of course you don't want to be, let's say, a bad person, whatever that means.

But you want to speak kindly to your kids because you love yourself so much that, yeah, that's all you allow yourself to be, a kind mother, kind partner, and also kind to yourself. Because I feel like we all have a monologue in our head.

We have, what, 60,000 thoughts a day? And those thoughts are often very negative. And once you learn to love yourself or to show up in life with self-worth, that monologue changes.

And that then, I mean, I'm a big fan of Dr. Joseph Spencer, and he teaches that as well. Your whole biochemistry changes in your body.

It's not just the words, but your whole life begins to change. And yeah, for me, that's what self-worth or self-love means and why it's so important for me. And if anything, I just, that's the biggest goal I have for my children's life.

Self-worth and self-love, because I just trust that everything else will just fall into place. So yeah, a strong word.

But it's also more than a strong word, Jil. It's so beautifully said by you, because it really is at the core and the essence of life. And if we don't have those two things, everything else is going to be mostly wobbly and shaky.

And so I really feel very honored to meet another fellow mom who has a very clear pathway set for her kids in terms of what is it that I really want them to take with them.

And I know that when I was growing up, my parents used to say a lot, oh, all that we can leave you is education. Education is the only legacy that is worthwhile, because you keep that with yourself wherever you go.

And granted, they were coming from a different model of the world and different paradigms and different times.

And so now that I hear you speak, I really resonate with that, because that is really the ultimate legacy that as, as parents, we can lead to our children, is that feeling of self-worth and self-love that nobody can take away no matter what happens.

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They are your birthright. There's this theme about rewriting your own story and breaking with the traditional nine to five system. And so can you share a bit how that come about?

What was that turning point for you from saying, well, you know, this is how I grew up. This is what was really ingrained in me and how I broke with all of that and started to rewrite my story.

Because I'm sure that a lot of listeners and fellow mamas that might be in the same space can draw inspiration from the bold, beautiful steps that you took.

Okay, I have to go way back. So when I was eight, my mom died of cancer. And then, yeah, I was put in a foster family.

Unfortunately, that didn't work out. So when I was 14, the foster mom decided it's better if I go to a foster home. Yeah, and obviously, I lived there for five and a half or six years.

That was really hard for me then to leave that family suddenly with 14. I felt like I've been given away, unwanted. She didn't want me.

I'm not good enough. And then I ended up in this foster home until I was 18. And when I was 18, I had the choice of either living off the government, because that child support ends then.

So you have to choose of either living off the government, to then get money for the pace for your life, or I have to find a job. And I wanted to find a job to pay for my own life expenses.

And I chose to work in a hotel and I did an apprenticeship in hotel management because I thought if I work in a hotel, it's the closest I could find to creating a life of freedom because I always felt that deep desire to be free.

I don't know, I couldn't even define what that meant, but I thought if I work in a hotel, I'm closer to that kind of lifestyle with tourists and it's a different environment. And it also allowed me to work from anywhere in the world.

So I did a hotel apprenticeship, which was also very terrible and I lost a lot of my self-worth from a lot of things that happened there.

But when I eventually finished my apprenticeship, I started, first of all, moving to different cities within Germany. So I left my little bubble, moved to a big city, Hamburg, which I absolutely love until this day.

And from there, then I moved to Australia. That was the first step into freedom. I still had to work, obviously, in hospitality.

That's how I financed my travel around Australia. But I bought a van, I lived in a van. Every morning, I woke up at a different place together with some friends that did that.

And I was like, wow, this is what life can feel like. You never know where life takes you. Every morning, we woke up at a different place.

And when we ran out of money, we just worked for a few weeks in some, I don't know, in some restaurants, cafes or pubs. And that's how I met my husband. He owned a restaurant in the middle of nowhere in Australia.

I, and yeah, that's how we met. I worked in his restaurant. And anyway, three months later, my friends kept traveling.

I moved in with my husband. A year later, we were engaged. Then we had our children in Australia.

And when the kids were, I think, two and three, we decided to move to Germany. And as soon as we landed in Germany, or not as soon, but a few months later, I don't know, I just, life just crumbled.

Because the biocracy was so hard for all of us to reintegrate into Germany. They made it so hard for us. I worked crazy hours, I think, 12 hours a day.

My husband had several jobs. He had to do integration class to learn the language. And, yeah, I think we both suffered from burnout.

I dropped my kids off to daycare at 7 in the morning. I wasn't home before 7. And, yeah, I think a year later, I had massive burnout.

My husband could hold it together a bit, but I didn't, I just completely crashed. I had massive panic attacks. I was picked up by an ambulance three times a week.

I didn't even know what panic attacks were. I just thought, oh my god, this must be a heart attack. I'm dying.

It was really severe. Everything was, I noticed it for a few months. As I was at work, everything was just spinning.

I was dizzy, and it just got worse and worse. And yeah, eventually I called myself an ambulance, and that's when I was diagnosed with panic attacks. And I couldn't believe doctors when they said there was nothing wrong with me.

It's just mentally, I was like, no, I can feel it because I couldn't breathe, I couldn't see, it was just my whole system collapsed. And for two years, I felt like I had 2% energy left in me while raising two little kids.

And yeah, and then within that time, because I said to the doctors, no, you have to check me, there's more, there's more to it, I can feel it. And then I found out I had a binaural brain tumor. But that was the story in a nutshell.

And it's a story of you following your intuition and your own wisdom, right?

To say, no, this doesn't feel right. I know there must be something more. And to stand your ground in that way for yourself and your health.

Yeah.

Totally. And everyone said, oh, you're crazy. There's nothing wrong with you.

Like even my doctor, she said, it's all in your head. You're just overwhelmed because you have two young children, you work. Yeah.

And when I said to her, well, I want to be checked from head to toe. So I had an MRI and I came back with the results. She actually laughed and said, huh, as I said, it's all in your head.

And yeah, she just, she apologized. But you know, she said, look, if I would send every young woman to get an MRI, I think it's called, it costs so much money, they wouldn't let me.

And again, the health system, it's like it really failed me because even then, when I was diagnosed, I had a brain surgery. But it took me two years to fully recover from that burnout and that surgery, and I didn't have any help.

And the only time I reached out for help, they told me there's a huge waiting list of six weeks.

And so I asked to be like in hospital for a few weeks, just so I can relax and someone can help me, and I get food and I don't have to think of everything. But yeah, they sent me there's a waiting list of six weeks.

And when I get that spot, when I get that bed, it's with medication. So I would have to take medication. And I said, no, I don't want to.

I want to learn to live my life again, and to find joy again, to find my strength again. I don't want to rely on any medication that I then have to get off. And they said, okay, well, then we can't help you.

And so I had to do it myself. And someone then introduced Byron Katie and Loving What Is.

I love Byron Katie. Yeah, she's amazing.

And honestly, that saved my life. I couldn't read. I didn't even have the strength to read.

But she, luckily, I found her audio book for free on YouTube. So I listened to it within, I think, three days and I was obsessed just with the understanding for everyone, for anyone that doesn't know Byron Katie, it's all about, is that true?

So she's the first person that made it clear to me that our thoughts, even though they're our own thoughts, it doesn't mean they have to be true.

And the thoughts I constantly repeated in my mind was, I'm not good enough, I'm, that's it, my life's over, I will never heal from this. And all of those thoughts, of course, had an effect on my healing and on my body.

But when I learned this, I was like, oh, maybe I can heal, maybe this is not the end. I started healing. And then, of course, together with the wisdom that Dr.

Joe Dispenser teaches and those two, they healed me. I never saw a therapist. I never took any medications.

I just slowly started healing by understanding the power of our thoughts. So whatever, yeah, our body is listening 24-7 to every thought we have and yeah, our cells react to it.

So if we have negative thoughts, of course, our body, we can literally make ourselves sick or we can hear. But the same applies to our life, the way we create our life. It has such a big impact.

And yeah, so that was the whole story. And you asked me what was the turning point. And I think the turning point was when I started healing, my kids, by the way, they were my life insurance because they gave me the will to live and to start healing.

And I thought, you know, for them, I want to do it and change my life and be an example for them too, on yeah, what it can look like. And I want to, yeah, I did it for them, I think.

And I made a promise to myself that I will never ever live a life that's not aligned with my soul's purpose, whatever that means.

Sometimes, you know, at this point, I didn't know what it looks like, but I just thought I just follow that calling in my heart. And yeah, that was the start of it.

21:04

Freedom Business Model

That's such a beautiful and powerful promise that you made to yourself, Jil, which has led you now to this freedom business model, right?

It has led you to envision life in such a different way. We like to share a little bit about that, about how that came to be such a perfect match for that promise made to yourself, saying, you know, I'm not going back to that old model.

I'm not going back to that traditional system, be it at work or be it even in the medical sense, that it doesn't even look out after me, right?

It's just there to perform procedures and do certain things, but it's not really looking after myself, my family, my well-being or the family unit, and how you came across this beautiful business model that has really transformed and unlocked so much

for you.

Yeah, exactly.

Like what you just said, it's not just a health system. I think in life, I realized no one comes to save you. I was in my bed for one and a half, two years, honestly, unable to live.

I had so many panic attacks. Sometimes my husband went away with work overnight, and I left the front door open, because I was scared that if I would die during the night, because I felt like I have no energy left in me, that must be it.

They would at least find me and my kids.

And I realized, you know, and I often wish that, I was lying there thinking, I wish someone could come and take my hand and show me how to do life again, to really build myself up and my life and show me, okay, what's the next step I can take towards

a more fulfilling life? And I realized no one's coming. And that's when I think, who says that? Maybe Byron Katie as well.

When the student is ready, the teacher will appear, but you are the teacher. And when I was ready, my inner teacher kind of appeared by taking one step after another.

And so in 2022, in the middle of COVID, we decided it's not a good place to be in Europe. It was crazy. So we moved back to Australia.

And as soon as we came back to Australia, I, oh yeah, right. That's it. We promised my daughter if she comes to Australia with us, because she didn't want to leave Germany, she would get a dog.

But as soon as we got here, we realized, or actually we're not ready for a dog, because there's a lot of responsibilities. So we started dog sitting. It's such a big thing here in Australia.

And I thought, oh, it's a nice little side income, dog sitting. It's fun and it's easy, and you get paid for it. And everyone asked me if I knew a dog groomer, and I didn't.

So I just became one. I thought, okay, great. This is a great opportunity to work from home and to create more freedom.

And yeah, more time to then focus on what it really is that I want to do in life. So I did a dog grooming course, started a dog grooming business from home. And with all that remaining time, I did research.

And then during an ecstatic dance on the beach, I saw one of my kids' teachers. And I later stalked her Instagram. And I don't know, she was onto something.

I didn't understand it at first, but she was in an attic. And I contacted her. We had a chai together.

She told me all about it. I was like, that's it. That's what I've been looking for.

How amazing.

And so again, in life, it's funny how if I wouldn't have gone to this dance, if it wouldn't have been for her, I think it was a major aspect through that it was one of my kids' teachers because I thought, okay, if she's doing it, it has to be

legendary because we hear so much about online marketing and all of those things. But her husband actually taught my kids and I really valued him. And I thought, okay, cool. If they're doing it, no brainer.

Like they did the research, I'm all in. So yeah, that's how it started. And suddenly, I had my own dog grooming business.

I started an online business, homeschooling my kids. I lived in Australia, I did ecstatic dances on the beach. And yeah, I was like, who am I?

Who's this person? What is this life? It all changed just from making one decision.

And it didn't mean it was easy. It wasn't easy at all. Like I was so terrified of, even when I became a dog groomer, I was like, this is so embarrassing.

What would people think now I'm grooming dogs? But then I thought, well, you know, they don't know it's all part of a bigger plan and that's creating a freedom-based lifestyle, which then led me to finding Enagic.

And Enagic opened the doors in so many directions. And yeah, here I am today recording a podcast.

I am at the edge of my seat. I feel like I've heard snippets of your story, but I haven't heard the entire story. And I'm just in awe of what you've done and how far you've come.

And I just want to celebrate that for you as well. This is just an incredible, inspirational story for I think so many that struggle with this. And you, so many people just literally give up in different ways they give up.

But you had this strength and you know it says, no, I need to change this. I want to live again. I want to have your beautiful children.

And yeah, you want to do is like you said there your life insurance, right? And like, I think that is that turning point when you were lying in that bed of saying, I want to do that again. And you started going on that journey all on your own.

When every system failed you of providing help or assistance or support that you did it yourself. And I think that's where your self worth and that inner strength was truly born. And you are such an amazing example to your girls.

And just, I think a lot of women that will listen to this as well. And that is now carrying you forward. And I think that's, wow, it's beautiful.

I'm still like, wow, I did not know that whole story. And it's really brings you to this point as well, where you've built that all of your life.

And now, if anything were to happen, let's say in your business, with the people you're surrounding yourself with, with a leader or someone maybe leaving or shifting or pivoting, I think you are, have such a grounded, really controlled conviction of

what you're doing and why you're doing it, that I think that is the exact definition of having an unshakable business or a path in front of you. Would you say that? Am I on the right path here?

28:40

Unshakable Path

Yeah, no, totally.

I just had so many thoughts while you were speaking. First of all, life only needs to make sense for yourself. Even when I share my story, there was so much, there's so much information.

That's why I always have to go back so much, like to when it all started. There's so many aspects of it. And I was told so many times, oh, you're doing too much.

Can you just focus on one thing? Like, you know, you're doing this and you're doing that. But they didn't know if it doesn't have to make sense for them.

It just makes sense for me. And for me, it was all about creating that life that I'm living now and finding opportunities. And, of course, things change along the way.

You find people, you lose people. And even within this business, I have seen a lot of things and people come and go. But it also teaches you that you can't rely on anyone or compare yourself or...

Because, again, you are the person that eventually has to walk that path and create it.

Like, you don't have to prove anything to anyone. You don't have to fulfill anyone's checklist or anything. You are the one that is believing in yourself and that absolutely knows that this is your path and you define your own success.

Whatever success means to you. And often, I think we fall into this trap, whether in life, but especially, I think, as we're all entrepreneurs here, in this like, oh, I need to achieve this, or I need to do this to be successful.

But what does that success actually mean to you? And what if you don't achieve it in that definition that has been set out within your business or by your leader? Right?

Like, is that, does that mean you fail?

No, of course, it doesn't, because for you, it can mean something different, whether it's a feeling, whether it's a, you know, like how you felt maybe achieving a certain goal, how you felt with building your team, who you're surrounding yourself

with. And I think that's a very powerful way to shape your own business and your own story.

Yeah. And then also we learn from all of those experiences, from positive experience, they just make us stronger. And the negative experiences, that's the beautiful thing because I had, of course, I had quite a few too, with people in this business.

But they just only taught me what I don't want for my own team or for myself. And this is also a gift. And again, like referring back to my burnout, while I was sitting in my bed, I thought, why is this happening to me?

Why do I have to go through it? I thought it's the worst thing that could have ever happened.

But again, like in the end, I came out so much stronger at the other end, it had to happen because now this is such a big piece of my life and I wouldn't want to miss it because it taught me so much wisdom.

And in business, in life, the same thing applies when things like there's nothing either good or bad, only thinking makes it so. So if we say something is a negative situation, if we just make it, we just call it that, but it just simply is.

And what we make with it is up to us. And sometimes it can be, and sometimes if we don't know what to do with it, all we can do is trust that whatever experience we have will just guide us into a different direction that's meant for us.

And yeah, there's always so much learning in every aspect of our lives. But I feel like even with this business or network marketing, there's so many offers out there. And I feel like people, they know they want to change their lives.

And even when it's presented to them, they're holding back because they can't, you know, it's too good to be true or they're scared to fall for a scam or something.

And yeah, it's, you know, someone once said, even social media can be a very toxic place, a very negative place to be at, but you can also turn around and create, instead of social media, you can create soulful magic.

And it's the same in this business. This business is what you are, who you are. You can create your own team, you can create your own or you're in control of the direction you want to take.

If you think, you know, there's a lot of false people in network marketing or in the online world, then you can lead as an example of being the opposite and show them that there's a different way and create your team.

And I feel like this is also something that I have learned to show up as you want your world to be like, you know, and again, people come and go, we have good and bad experiences, but in the end, you're the creator of what you want to take from it.

And may I just highlight, Jil, the fact that I am teary-eyed. At some point, you had me really teary-eyed. I know this is nodding as well.

And you were also in your feelings. And I could see that even though it's not visible to anyone listening right now. And what I feel is the frequency that you so beautifully bring to the table today.

And I'm sure to every day that you wake up and you open your eyes, is that frequency of the self-worth who knows that she's here for more. She's here to make that impact. But with the self-love of vulnerability.

And we definitely want to show up as strong women, as bold women, as courageous women. We want to show up as that badass person that gets to fight the evil in the world. And she comes out on the other side.

And today, I want to really thank you for showing what that in-between space looks like. Because that in-between space comes up and says, I don't think I have it all together yet. And I do have a North Star as the faces of my children.

And they are inspiring me to wake up and to become the best version that I can be for myself. And I am loving myself in that perhaps wobbliness, messy space as I put all the components and all the pieces together as I go.

While also allowing myself to feel what I'm feeling. If it's a bit of embarrassment because I'm walking the dogs, if it's a bit of fear about not knowing what the next step is, because there's a major change or shake up happening in the forefront.

Whether it's the anger of when I reminisce about how the system is broken and it needs to be changed. People wake up, right? You want to rattle those fences and rattle those systems.

You allow yourself to feel it and to love yourself as you're feeling them and to know that you're worthy in that process. So there's no achievement that is tied to that. There's no immediate achievement.

But in that space, you will get to the achievement of really having this beautiful life of expansion and joy. And you're already so well under way.

I think one of the questions that I have is, what is that one takeaway that you could give a mom that is listening who might be in similar situations or shoes?

And she's listening and saying, wait a second, she gets to living in a place where she's choosing to be with her family. She's choosing to raise her daughters in a way that she feels is the best fit, it extracts that wisdom out of them.

She's building this freedom business and doing this business model that is allowing her to breathe better, live better, show up better. How does she get to do all these things?

What is that one first step that anybody who could be listening to your story right now could draw inspiration from? To say, okay, if Jil is showing me the way I know I can too.

First of all, I think my core message was why I mentioned so many steps that I took from dog grooming to now doing affiliate marketing with Enagic is that there's always a way. And sometimes we can have a goal, but it's like climbing a ladder.

We can't just go from where we are and reach our goal the next day. We have to climb the ladder. Like we have to take one step after another.

And it's like someone said the other day too. It takes a lot of years to have overnight success. But there's a lot of planning in the background or like doing the do's, walking the talk.

And for me, yeah, my biggest message is there's always a way. You just have to let go of society's expectations. And also me now during network marketing showing up online, it wasn't easy.

It's still not easy. But you show up for yourself and we are so scared. So I think next to the fear of death, there's the fear of public speaking.

And what we do here is public speaking. And there's so much, I don't know, there's so much wisdom in that too, when you overcome this fear, because what are we so scared of? To be seen, to be heard?

Like, why are we so scared of? Because I think truthfully, we mostly think about other people first before we show up for ourselves. So let go and just walk your path.

And maybe if you don't want to be seen, you can find ways to do it secretly behind closed doors. You don't have to tell the world. But once you show up for yourself, I don't know, I feel like you gain even more and more self-worth by doing that.

And yeah, it hasn't been easy. It's still not easy, but it is so much fun every time. Like on every level, there's a new devil.

When you, yeah, when you conquer that devil, it's like it always brings you closer to yourself.

We're the ones really responsible for our own strength, for our own success, for our own path that we decide to take. And that is so extremely powerful.

I mean, if there was a rating for how much I was nodding during this episode, it's just incredible. Thank you so much for sharing the story.

Thank you for being this inspiration and this permission to take this first step for someone who feels wobbly in their own business.

If you're really curious about what is it that lights us all up, what is it that brings us all together, and what we're doing now that enables us to walk in this incredible path where you really choose your story, then head over to

mombossesabroad.com where we really share the path, the business model that we've all decided to affiliate ourself with, and that is now the catalyst to further write our story and stand in the strongest self-worth that we can be in. So thank you so

much for being with us today, Jil.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

And one last thing, even if you're scared, if you're mom listening, you don't have to do it alone. Like there's such a big collective here, so you're not alone. Thank you so much for having me, guys.

Yes, that is one of those sayings that we share here in the podcast is you have to do it yourself, but you don't have to walk the walk alone, right?

You always have that community and that sisterhood waiting for you. And if you want to connect with Jil, you can always, always connect via Instagram. We'll be sharing all of her links on our show notes at jil.dean and her Facebook as well.

So thank you so much, Jil, for being here with us today.

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Guest Bio

Jil Dean is a German-born entrepreneur and mother living on the Sunshine Coast of Australia. After overcoming burnout and leaving the 9-to-5 grind, she built a freedom-based lifestyle through affiliate marketing, holistic art therapy, and multiple passion-driven income streams. She shares her journey of homeschooling, spirituality, and rewriting her story to inspire other freedom seekers to create lives aligned with their values. Jil’s story is one of courage, growth, and rewriting the rules—proving that with belief and aligned action, a new life is always possible. A true believer that we shape the world around us, Jil refuses to accept the “normal” and instead creates her own path, so her daughters never have to repeat the cycle.

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